Need A little Help

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Fri, 02/10/2017 - 23:26

KE4HGP

Need A little Help

Well i got my M2 and Anteena but didnt get router yet.Second Router for Node(Air Router hp,anyhow this is what i have done so far.I ran boot set up and it dertirmed that all was good to install softawre.Did that and it installed it,but was not able to get it to load setup page from my desktop running windows 10.So i connectd to it from my laptop and it will load the Aredn Set up page,asks for usr name and password and will not go any further.It shows the node and connects just will not let me enter my info comes back to log on info.Any suggestions?

Thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Sat, 02/11/2017 - 10:43

AE6XE

Checking on the fundamentals

Checking on the fundamentals first... Confirm the user and password entered is the same as shown on slide 4 here: http://www.aredn.org/content/how-setup-your-aredn-node

Joe AE6XE

Sun, 02/12/2017 - 21:53

(Reply to #2) #3

KE4HGP

Thank You

I was able to get node up,but router is a horse of another color.I was able to log into it with Air Software but when i did firmware upgrade to it was not able to get into it again.So not sure what's up with that.I do appreciate you steering me in the right direction.Some times you mess with things and you over look the simple stuff

Thank's
Again
73's
Tim
KE4HGP.

Sun, 02/12/2017 - 23:59

K5DLQ

The installation instructions

The installation instructions are here: http://www.aredn.org/content/uploading-firmware-ubiquiti

A KEY STEP is to look at the warning at the top of that page related to AirOS 5.6 and higher.

Mon, 02/13/2017 - 00:55

(Reply to #4) #5

KE4HGP

Router

I was able to Flash the Radio,but the Router it flashed but i for some reason can not log in to it.I can log into Node ok.

Thank You
Tim
KE4HGP

Mon, 02/13/2017 - 08:53

(Reply to #5) #6

K5DLQ

Ensure that you installed

Ensure that you installed AREDN over AirOS 5.5
Ensure that you changed your PC's network interface back to DHCP addressing
Unplug the network cable from your PC
Close your browser
Re-plug the network cable
Open your browser
go to http://localnode:8080

Try that.

Mon, 02/13/2017 - 23:16

(Reply to #6) #7

KE4HGP

I am a little Confused

What does the Air Router itself do in the Node?I am assuming it will allow it to connect to internet?This type of node is new to me so sorry if i am asking a lot of questions.But node is running and able to connect to it via computer if connected.But still got router issues.

Thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Tue, 02/14/2017 - 07:47

(Reply to #7) #8

w8erw

A little confused

Tim,

A little confused is where most of us got started. With the exception of the great bunch who have lead this adventure into AREDN, we all struggled to understand most of this. First, when you flash your hardware with the AREDN firmware, you drastically alter how it works. That statement is not as scary as it sounds, but you do need to change a lot of what you knew about routers to begin to understand it all. The links in a MESH network are formed over the wireless part of the device rather than the wired, backwards from what we all took for granted with normal internet routers.

These fine folks here have done a wonderful job of providing us with a seriously functional platform. It does take some reading ahead of time to get properly started. There are a few cautions that are essential for success including the necessity of knowing what version of the hardware you will be working with. A failure here will provide you with a brick, either useless or requiring a lot of extra work to recover it.

There are several Ubiquity devices available and capable of AREDN service. Each has it's own unique properties and capabilities. Some are single port devices, Bullit, AirGrid, etc. The AirRouter is much like the normal routers we have known and used. It has multiple ports, some have special properties that provide for the gateway function and others, providing the MESH network with internet access. You need to be using the correct port to administer the device and utilize these alternate functions. Initial access to the Ubiquity device will give you fits if you do not follow recommended steps and likewise after it's flashed with AREDN. Check the process and follow the recommended steps to insure success.

Like many of us, I am still learning and exploring the many aspects of MESH networking. You will be successful as well after a few small steps and learning as you go. Don't give up. The potential here is huge and what we can do with AREDN is nearly limitless. All thanks to some very talented and dedicated folks who saw the potential and put a lot of work into providing something that we can all use.

73,

Jim W8ERW

Tue, 02/14/2017 - 11:46

(Reply to #8) #9

KE4HGP

Router

Thank You for the reply.It is a challenge but i like these chalenges and it keeps my mind working.I was able to communicate to node,but still not sure how to communicate with router.The router is communicating with node.So i guess i got to keep plugging along.i just dont want the router to be open to public and non-secure.Before i fLlahed it i had set it to be but not sure what it is set at now.Again thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 15:31

(Reply to #9) #10

KK6NAN

related problem

Hi, i'm also unable to reach anything at http://localnode:8080. i have done the following:
- downgraded firmware on my new Rocket M2 to 5.5.11, re-ran u-boot with result = good good
- installed AREDN over AirOS 5.5
- set my pc network interface to DHCP addressing
- steps 3-7 above

... but i get a "this site can't be reached' error, also indicates "localnode's server DNS address could not be found." ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED

part of this issue may be that i used windows 10 via parallels on my iMac. i was not able to see the initial AirOS page when i had device plugged directly into the iMac ethernet port, but i did see it when i plugged the Rocket LAN port into my home router, which allowed me to proceed to where i am now. however i can't find an option on the iMac/settings/network windows to "Obtain DNS server address automatically", as indicated in the "Uploading firmware to Ubiquiti" picture/text instructions page. on parallels/windows 10/network connections / properties, IPV4 / properties, the "Obtain DNS server address automatically" button is populated, but after steps 3-7 above i still get "Hmm, we can't reach this page"

Any help much appreciated!!

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 16:16

(Reply to #10) #11

AE6XE

Give the fully qualified

Give the fully qualified domain name a try: http://localnode.local.mesh:8080 . When ever I use my work laptop, it has policies that spell out domainnames to search through and it will automatically append my company's domainnames to the hostname. Maybe there is a similar issue with your setup.

Also, the assumption is this laptop/desktop is connected on the Mesh Node's LAN network and this is not mixed in somehow with the home network. If default mesh node settings, your windows 10 OS should have received a 10.x.x.x address.

Which device(s) did you load with AREDN firmware? Is this more than, e.g. a Nanostation and your desktop?

Joe AE6XE

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 16:18

(Reply to #11) #12

KG6JEI

Probably best to create your

Probably best to create your own thread as the symptoms and variables sound significantly different to me than the ones in this thread

Tue, 02/14/2017 - 19:04

#13

w8erw

AirRouter Access

I don't think you will actually address the AirRouter outside of the AREDN firmware once you have flashed it. All the features and access available is
done via the node access and AREDN. You have an AREDN node rather than a router once you flash it with AREDN. New functions specific to the AREDN node firmware should give you everythging that you need and as desired, much of what you would have with the Ubiquity firmware would be there although under the AREDN setup as provided for.

Wed, 02/15/2017 - 00:02

(Reply to #13) #14

KE4HGP

Router

OK Thank's i just wanted to make sure no one else was able to use wifi,it does not show up on Wifi networks but on Node it does when i scan it.Still learning and willing.I just want to make sure everything is good to go.I havent set any Tunnel yet?Any suggestions on that set up?

Thank's

Tim KE4HGP

Fri, 02/17/2017 - 21:30

#15

KF4HJW

map

Saw you got posted on the map. Not sur eif you have figured out the listing there. When you click on a node on the map it will tell you the ssid AREDN-xx-v3 the xx is the bandwithg 20 10 or 5 mhz. Then you can see the channel #. I also tells you the Type of Node. How high is your node located?

Fri, 02/17/2017 - 22:12

(Reply to #15) #16

KE4HGP

Map

As of now its not mounted but,hopefully this week end i will get it up about 30'.Best i can do.It's better then no feet i guess.And yes i finally am making some progress,the router gave me a fit.Although after some researching on here and brain storming i finally was able to get it up.Not sure about Tunnel?That needs to be worked on.I have learned a few things about this Node though,good thing.Because this was a bit of a learning curve but i like it or i would not do it.I am looking at also putting the Node on a BU power supply when i mount it.My Station does have that but the Antenna will be mounted on my shed with a source supply.The more i learn about it the more i want to know.

73's

Tim

KE4HGP
Tim

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 16:20

#17

AE6XE

Tim, I'm reading back

Tim, I'm reading back through this thread and not entirely sure which devices you have. Do you have an AirRouter HP and another device? I'm not sure what "M2 and Antenna" device is -- a 2nd device or the AirRouter HP.

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 17:59

(Reply to #17) #18

KE4HGP

Devices

Ubiquiti ROCKETM2 2.4GHz Hi Power 2x2 MIMO AirMax TDMA BaseStation

Ubiquiti Networks 802.11N Wireless Router Hp (AIRROUTER-HP(US))

Ubiquiti AM-2G16-90 AirMax Sector 2.4 GHz 2x2 MIMO BaseStation Sector Antenna

Thanks
Tim

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 19:26

(Reply to #18) #19

AE6XE

Is the cat5 from the Rocket

Is the cat5 from the Rocket (if it is on the roof) come down to the POE and be next to the AirRouter? If so, plug the LAN port of the Rocket POE brick into Port 4 of the AirRouter. (This assumes you have previously loaded AREDN on the Rocket and the AirRouter with your callsign.) Plug the desktop/laptop in to any one of the AirRouter LAN ports 1 to 3. Plug the AirRouter WAN Port into your home network. Now power everything back up and you should be able to access the internet AND browse to the AirRouter via "http://localnode.locl.mesh:8080" from you computer. Go to "mesh status" and you should see the Rocket M2 listed under Neighbors.

This would be a 2 node network. Get others to point their antennas to your Rocket-Sector to extend the network. but it's only interesting until you start adding-defining services to communicate over the network (voip, ipcam, etc.) and begin to use it.

Joe AE6XE

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 20:05

(Reply to #19) #20

KE4HGP

Node

Here is what status page looks like

Thank's

Tim

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Mon, 02/20/2017 - 21:43

(Reply to #20) #21

AE6XE

go to the "setup" page, then

go to the "setup" page, then "Admin". A the very bottom is a link "download support data". Click on this to download a file to you computer. Then upload this file to the forum here. Will need more information to be able to determine next steps.

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 22:35

(Reply to #21) #22

KE4HGP

Support Data

OK Thanks Will Do

Tim
KE4HGP

Support File Attachments:

supportdata-KE4HGP-1-201702202229.tgz

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 23:04

#23

AE6XE

Tim, bingo. The AirRouter

Tim, bingo. The AirRouter is set to "ch -1" @ 20Mhz and the Rocket looks to be on "ch -2" @ 20Mhz. Change both of them to "ch -2" @ 10Mhz channel width--assuming you want them to talk to each other via RF. The 20Mhz will slip past the edge of our licensing on ch -2. ch -1 has overlap with the wifi ch 1 signals nearby, so best to drop down to ch -2, unless you reall do want them on 2 different channels.

there doesn't appear to be a network cable between the Rocket and the Airrouter to 'DtDlink' them together. Is this by design or one more issue to work out? They do see each other via RF, but when they are at same location, always best to let them route over the hard cable and not put more RF traffic in the air than necessary.

Joe AE6XE

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 23:12

(Reply to #23) #24

KE4HGP

Air Router

OK i know i can change the Rocket M2 on Admin page as for Router not sure where to make them changes,as far as network cable theres not i have Rocket Mounted on my shed.

Thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Mon, 02/20/2017 - 23:35

(Reply to #24) #25

AE6XE

This will be under the 'Setup

This will be under the 'Setup' page on both the Rocket M2 and the AirRouter HP. Just plug your computer respectively into the LAN port of each device, browse to http://localnode:8080 , then make sure the settings are the same:

channel = -2
channel width = 10Mhz
SSID = AREDN <- this is default

This is what you well tell other ham buddies to set their AREDN devices to when they want to connect to your Sector Antenna on the shed. Hopefully, it is sufficiently high up for line of sight needed for others to connect in.

Joe AE6XE

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 00:18

(Reply to #25) #26

KE4HGP

Rocket

Ok i will try again later on,but let me get it straight as of now i can not address router so you are saying to plug computer into Lan port 4 of router to set it?I can address my Rocket the way it is now.I will bring Rocket in tomorrow and try to do it all over again.

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 00:29

(Reply to #26) #27

AE6XE

Plug your computer into the

Plug your computer into the AirRouter on LAN port 1, 2, or 3. This should be the same way when you captured the screen shot of mesh status above, just need to browse to the setup page instead.

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 00:41

(Reply to #27) #28

KE4HGP

Mesh

OK thats what i did before but it did not show where to change router info.

Thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 19:44

(Reply to #28) #29

KE4HGP

Air Router

It still shows up as Air Router?

Support File Attachments:

Air Roter

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 20:02

(Reply to #29) #30

AE6XE

Good, the AirRouter looks to

Good, the AirRouter looks to be all setup just right. I can see it is also connected to your home network. The Rocket is not live with a 10Mhz channel width, at least it's not heard by the AirRouter. if you take a network cable and plug directly between your computer and the Rocket (LAN port on POE brick), then power up both devices, you should be able to browse to http://localnode:8080 and do the same setup configuration of ch- -2 and 10Mhz width. Then they should see each other in mesh status.

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 20:30

(Reply to #30) #31

KE4HGP

Rocket

This whats showing

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Tue, 02/21/2017 - 21:49

(Reply to #31) #32

AE6XE

Down load the support data of

Down load the support data of the Rocket, then we can see its configuration. The AirRouter would have seen the Rocket's signal if on 10Mhz channel width even if given the same name. Guessing the Rocket is not yet at 10Mhz channel width and may need to change the name of the rocket. A good practice is to include the device in the name:

AE6XE-RM5-90-QTH <- Rocket M5 with 90 deg sector at my QTH
AE6XE-NSM3-XYZpeak <- nanostation M3 at XYZpeak location

Joe AE6XE

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 22:34

(Reply to #32) #33

KE4HGP

Rocket

OK Here it is

Thank's
Tim
KE4HGP

Support File Attachments:

supportdata-KE4HGP-2-201605120526.tgz

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 21:05

#34

K5DLQ

Are both your nodes named

Are both your nodes named KE4HGP-1 ???

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 22:15

(Reply to #34) #35

KE4HGP

Confused I guess

Yes i am assuming so should they not be,say AirRouter KE4HGP-1,Rocket KE4HGP-2 ?

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 22:45

(Reply to #35) #36

AE6XE

That works too, just less

That works too, just less descriptive.

Joe AE6XE

Tue, 02/21/2017 - 23:50

#37

KE4HGP

Appreciate The Help

But i hate to say i am throwing in the towel,tried to the reset button on Rocket and broke it.I gave it a try so maybe better look next time.I do appreciate all the feedback and help.

73's
Tim
KE4HGP

Wed, 02/22/2017 - 00:19

(Reply to #37) #38

AE6XE

Tim, you were very close.

Tim, you were very close. The support data says the Rocket was configured correctly. If they weren't linking up, then probably the signal was blocked too much to hear each other from shed to shack? I'll have to go back and look, but the default power settings are not the highest power--might have been handicapped?

The reset button will reset the root password to default or reset back to AREDN first boot if held long enough. When you're ready to give another shot, send me separate email and maybe we can get it going.

Joe AE6XE

Wed, 02/22/2017 - 00:49

(Reply to #38) #39

KE4HGP

Thank's

Will do but have to get a new Rocket,that one is gone :)I had Rocket inside house next to router about 3ft away.

Mon, 02/27/2017 - 22:35

#40

KE4HGP

Support

Not sure but still having a few issues,but going to keep plugin

Support File Attachments:

Support

Mon, 02/27/2017 - 22:46

#41

AE6XE

Looks like it is working.

Looks like it is working. Your AirRouter has made a link to the other device, I presume the Rocket on ch -2. Go into mesh status and you should see it as a neighbor.

Mon, 02/27/2017 - 23:08

(Reply to #41) #42

KE4HGP

Support

Its linking but on maps it still shows up air router?

Thank's

Tim
KE4HGP

Tue, 02/28/2017 - 22:02

(Reply to #42) #43

AE6XE

Tim, are you referring to

Tim, are you referring to "maps" to mean this -> http://www.aredn.org/content/aredn-map-0 ? It looks like you have these names for the 2 mesh nods:

AirRouter: KE4HGP-RocketM2 <- you may want to change this to KE5HGP-AR-FM16xs
Rocket M2: KE4HGP-RM2-FM16xs

To also add the Rocket M2 to the AREDN map:

1) browse to "http://KE4HGP-RM2-FM16xs.local.mesh:8080/cgi-bin/setup"
2) scroll down to the optional settings
3) type in lat, long, grid square
4) click "Apply Location settings"
5) click "Upload to AREDN servers"

Joe AE6XE

Tue, 02/28/2017 - 22:27

(Reply to #43) #44

KE4HGP

Node

For some reason ic an not upload to net or change time,is there something i am missing not set correct in node?

Thank's

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