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VE7KOD
VLAN Setup

Sorry guys.. want to make sure I have this setup correctly. VLAN 1 will not be used, can I delete this? DHCP server will be handled by Node C, servers will be disabled on Nodes A and B.

My set up is as follows:

Available Ports: 8 (1-4 PoE)
DTD Ports: 3
LAN Ports: 5
WAN Ports: 0
Port 1: Mesh Node A - RF (PoE)
Port 2:  Mesh Node B - RF (PoE)
Port 3-7 : LAN #1-5 on Node C - Port 3 for VoIP phone (needs PoE).
Port 8: Mesh Node C (HaP AC Lite)









 

K6CCC
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A couple changes
Took a minute to make sure I understood what you were trying to configure.  But if I have this right, you are trying to configure an eight port managed switch for the purpose of tying three nodes together via DtD and provide additional LAN ports for node C - a hAP ac lite.

Correct, VLAN 1 is not needed in this situation and can be deleted from the switch configuration.

The hAP ac lite uses port 5 for DtD using VLAN 2, so that would connect to port 8 of the switch, however it does NOT have untagged LAN traffic on hAP port 5.  You would have to plug a second cable from the hAP port 2, 3, or 4 into one of your LAN ports (3 - 7) on the switch.  So for this discussion, let's assume you use hAP port 4 to switch port 7 for AREDN LAN.  So based on this, remove VLAN 11 untagged from switch port 8.  Also change the PVID on switch port 8 from 11 to 2.  Note, that this may not be needed depending on the switch.  With the managed switches I use, the PVID is not used when all traffic into the switch on that port is already VLAN tagged.

When all done, this would give you a total of six LAN ports available on the AREDN LAN from the hAP ac lite (ports 2 & 3 on the hAP and ports 3, 4, 5, & 6 on the switch).  Remember to change the haP LAN port setting on the basic setup page to "13  Host Direct" instead of the default of "5 host Direct".  Note that this change will change the IP address range for your LAN ports.
 
VE7KOD
Fantastic! thank you for the
Fantastic! thank you for the detailed explanation. First time with VLAN's and trying to configure something that isn't established on the AREDN website. The switch is a Netgear GS108PE, ports 1-4 have PoE 5-8 non-PoE. I need to use the PoE function on ports 1 and 2 for the two dishes, with step down convertors from 48V, port 3 will be for VoIP phone use with PoE. 
AB7PA
Another (simpler) alternative?

If you were using an hAP ac2 or ac3 you could do everything on the hAP without needing a separate vlan switch.
On the Advanced Network page, set two of the ports as DTD for nodes A & B, and all the other ports as LAN ports on the hAP (node C).
Just another possibility to accomplish your goal. smiley

VE7KOD
That's great, wasn't aware of
That's great, wasn't aware of this feature on the ac2/ac3 versions and it's definitely another possibility. Can you have more than one PoE port or would i need to use injectors?

Thanks for the alternative, have been looking at upgrading my hap to the ac3.

Jesse
AB7PA
Use injectors

Use injectors -- the hAP ac2/ac3 do not provide any PoE power on their ports.

VE7KOD
Thank you again! Jesse
Thank you again!

Jesse
nc8q
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POE passthough on Mikrotik ac lite [,2,3]
I think the hAP ac lite and ac3 have POE passthough.
I think the hAP ac2 does not have POE passthough.

If you have the space, I recommend individual POE injectors.

73, Chuck

 
K6CCC
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I think the hAP ac lite and

I think the hAP ac lite and ac3 have POE passthough.
I think the hAP ac2 does not have POE passthough.

Correct

If you have the space, I recommend individual POE injectors.


Agreed  -especially if you need more than one.
 
VE7KOD
Agreed  -especially if you

Agreed  -especially if you need more than one.

If you have the space, I recommend individual POE injectors.

May I ask why you prefer injectors?

I find having 3 plugs for the injectors difficult to deal with and I would have to have two models (1 active 2 passive). Having one wall wart that supplies 4 ports on a switch, I can use one of those ports to power my VoIP Cisco phone and the other three I can use convertors to drop from 48v to 24v without tying up power outlets. https://ca.store.ui.com/ca/en/collections/uisp-accessory-tech-poe-surge-adapters/products/ins-8023af-i?variant=ins-8023af-i

I guess at the end of the day for me it's about access to 120v. smiley
K6CCC
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May I ask why you prefer

May I ask why you prefer injectors?


The reference was injectors as opposed to trying to use POE from the hAP.  Using a switch also works fine provided that either all the ports need to talk to each other, or you have a managed switch that allows splitting things up as needed.  Obviously the switch needs to be able to handle the different types or voltages of POE.

I'm using one these multi-port injectors in my data cabinet for POE to some routers and switches:  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01NAPJ9M6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_...
My only difference is that I'm feeding the 24V DC to the injector from my 24V DC system (includes about 125 AH of battery) rather than the AC adapter.

 
K7EOK
I prefer to have one power

I prefer to have one power source and go to DC as soon as possible, then split the DC for the various devices.  You can either pay more for a pass thru POE capable switch, or use a 1 to 4  5.5x2.1 power splitter cord to run several passive injectors.  Most mesh runs from 24VDC so I like a single 5 or 10 amp 24VDC power supply in the AC then split up the DC to all the devices ... or if you need to run from battery go 12V into a boost converter that gives you 24V 5A and you're good to go with the same wiring (easy transition in emergency power failure).  The worst thing from my perspective is having multiple AC to DC wall warts looking like a teen age kid's bedroom ... all plugged into a 120V power strip.  Yuck.

Ed
 

VE7KOD
Thank you for the great
Thank you for the great explanations! 

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