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K7EOK
Firmware for QRT5
OK, question.  I've got a QRT5 new in the box that has not had anything done to it yet. 

I understand that to UPGRADE from previous firmware I have to use the "dangerous upgrade" method to get the new firmware on it.  If there is no AREDN firmware on a new QRT5, can I just apply 3.23.4.0 or the RC1 release candidate in the usual method?  Or do I still have to do the "dangerous" thing to get the newer firmware to load?

Ed  K7EOK
 
nc8q
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QRT5 new in the box that has not had anything done to it yet.

Hi, Ed:

Then loading AREDN firmware on it is not an UPGRADE, it is
overwriting the Mikrotik operating system with a new operating system.
Please review the Documentation here at this site and especially follow the
suggestions in the
https://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/installing_firmware.html#installing-aredn-trade-firmware
and
https://docs.arednmesh.org/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/installing_firmware.html#mikrotik-first-install-process
areas.

73, Chuck

 

K7EOK
Thank you Chuck.  That is
Thank you Chuck.  That is what I would have assumed ... but lately better to make sure first!

73, Ed
 
K7EOK
OK same topic new question
Hello all,

As of now I have put 3.23.4.0 on a QRT5 that had no AREDN on it previously, worked fine with the normal install procedure.

I have also now applied the dangerous ipk to an existing node with 3.22.12.0 and then updated it to 3.23.8.0 and things went fine.

NEW question

If I have an existing QRT or BaseBox that needs dangerous ... with AREDN firmware already on it ...

Can I start from scratch with either SSH or TinyPXE and do a complete install from the beginning with both 3.23.8.0 files, and not use the dangerous ipk?  Power on while holding the reset ... will that make the node behave as if it never saw AREDN firmware before?

Ed
 
nc8q
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Firmware for QRT5

Hi, Ed:

For clarity for those reading this thread years from now,
I am repeating the thread/subject-line. ;-)

I am unaware of any 'dangerous ipk'!

When you 'Power on while holding the reset', then after about 20-30 seconds,
a 'boot loader' will run.
The 'boot loader' behaves suchly:
The 'boot loader' does not 'look for, nor care' about
any existing firmware. A firmware install, whether factory/initramfs/bin/..., will
simply overwrite any former existing firmware.

I hope this helps,
Chuck

 

K7EOK
OK, for posterity then ... I
OK, for posterity then ... I was referring to

dangerousupgrade_0.1_all.ipk

Chuck, your answer is what I thought it might be, that this overwrites all firmware.  OK, then if I have physical access to the device I can move it all the way to 3.23.8.0 without using the above mentioned package.  Doing it this way would mean that safety checks for compatible firmware would remain in place for future firmware upgrades?  That would seem to be a much better plan long term.

Ed
 
nc8q
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dangerousupgrade_0.1_all.ipk
Hi, Ed:

You mentioned 'dangerous upgrade ipk' again.

I looked for 'dangerousupgrade_0.1_all.ipk' here in the forum and
you are the only one that had mentioned it.

If you have physical access to the device:
It seems to me that you could use the first install procedure to load
aredn-3.23.8.0-ath79-mikrotik-mikrotik_routerboard-911g-5hpnd-qrt-initramfs-kernel.bin
then
aredn-3.23.8.0-ath79-mikrotik-mikrotik_routerboard-911g-5hpnd-qrt-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin
and not need to use 'dangerous upgrade'.

Hopefully someone with experience with the QRT5 will post here soon.

73, Chuck
 
AJ6GZ
3.23.4.0 to 3.23.8.0
Moving from 3.23.4.0 directly to 3.23.8.0 requires nothing special. I just did it without issue on a QRT5. Unless it's called out specifically in the docs somewhere, you shouldn't need to involve dangerous things on a new install either. Ian

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