Has anyone tried to use the switch portion of a MiktoTik router to do the WiFi to WAN (Internet) connection?
The router connects to the internet and has provision for a few ports to be configured as vLAN so it should be able to at least bridge the BulletM2
to the internet for temporary tunneling applications. I am current using an RB750 inexpensive router.
Eric - ve3ei
The router connects to the internet and has provision for a few ports to be configured as vLAN so it should be able to at least bridge the BulletM2
to the internet for temporary tunneling applications. I am current using an RB750 inexpensive router.
Eric - ve3ei
I was hoping to power and dtd connect two (2) NSM5-XWs with one (1) ethernet cable up the tower.
Ooopps, I purchased a Microtik RB750P-PBr-2 Power Box and now realize it is a router, not a switch.
Although the docs claim this device runs linux internally, it seems to require a Microsoft(r) Windows OS
and Winbox.exe for configuration. Grrrrr.
'wine winbox.exe' failed with dependency errors.
I did find a web GUI at 192.168.88.1 and configured
'All ports in bridge mode'. But when I added the two NSM5-XWs, they did not appear in my existing
NSM3's node list. May this device be configured as a switch from the GUI or do I need to
'call-a-friend' with a Windoze box? Any hints will be appreciated.
Chuck
https://www.aredn.org/content/gs108e-3-node-4-lan-1-wan
I am thinking it would work if it was programmed like ports 1 through 5
of the GS108E in the example link above. One of the VLAN11-LAN ports
would be the cable that comes down from the tower and into the shack.
e.g.
Port 1: LAN #1 on Node A (+POE injection, from tower to 'SHACK')
Port 2: Mesh Node A (NSM5-XW)
Port 3: LAN #2 on Node A
Port 4: Mesh Node B (NSM5-XW)
Port 5: LAN #1 on Node B
Image attached.
This will work well. You have a smart switch on the bottom of the tower so will have maximum flexbility. We should bring all VLANs down the one wire. So that would be VLAN 1, VLAN 2, and the two LANs one from each node. All 3 nodes will mesh together and you will have all 3 LAN subnets available.
On the RB750:
ether1 - vlan 1, vlan 2, vlan A and B (All tagged)
ether2 - vlan A
ether3 - vlan 1, vlan 2 (all tagged)
ether4 - vlan B
ether5 - vlan 1, vlan 2 (all tagged)
On the base switch:
the NSM3 port - vlan 1, vlan 2, vlan C (1 & 2 tagged)
the RB750 port - vlan 1, vlan 2, vlan A and B (all tagged)
remaining ports - any selection of untagged A, B, C to plug in your computers, phones, etc.
remaining ports - one untagged vlan 1 port if you want WAN to Internet
I just created a long-winded tutorial on the MikroTik. It should help. Let me know here regarding this specific setup. It is pretty much the same as the last example in the tutorial which has 2 XW devices and an uplink.
Ian
Uh, After booting the RB750, setting a password and rebooting;
I am at "192.168.88.1/webfig/".
It appears that the top right navigation tab "Quick Set" is selected.
How do I get to
<cite>"On the RB750:
ether1 - vlan 1, vlan 2, vlan A and B (All tagged)"</cite>
in your post ?
Sorry I was replying without paying attention... I was referring the various screens at https://www.aredn.org/content/mikrotik-tutorial tho I don't see the upper right corner button I was referring to :) There it is....
I found those various screens. However, I am very confused at:
"If you are only connecting a single node, are not using DtD and WAN functions, you can skip this. Under the Interfaces tab, Click the + tab and add a VLAN. I have named this one ‘ether2-vlan1’ indicating it will be the tagged vlan1 traffic from the ether2 interface. Configure ‘VLAN ID: 1’ and select ‘ether2’ as the interface and click OK. Repeat for VLAN 2. Do this for each interface that will have a node on it."
I do not see a "+ tab" to click and
at the 'Repeat for VLAN2', do I repeat from the previous sentence, from 2 sentences previous, or 3 sentences previous
("Click the + tab and add a VLAN")?
Chuck
So on WebFig (use Winbox if you can, my screenshots were from that), on the Interfaces page, click 'Add New', then 'VLAN'. Edit the following:
Name: ether2-vlan1
VLAN ID: 1
Interace: ether2
everything else can be left alone. By repeat, I meant we do the same thing but for VLAN 2:
Name: ether2-vlan2
VLAN ID: 2
Interace: ether2
In summary, for an XM node you'll want:
ether1 (no vlan setting or changes necessary, leave as default)
ether1-vlan1 (VLAN ID:1 interface: ether1)
ether1-vlan2 (VLAN ID:2 interface: ether1)
Here, ether1 will carry all traffic, the LAN, DtD and WAN.
For an XW node fully configured you need two ports:
ether3 (no changes)
ether4-vlan1 (VLAN ID:1 interface: ether4)
ether4-vlan2 (VLAN ID:2 interface: ether4)
Here, ether3 carries VLAN, and ether4 carries DtD and WAN.
Example:
Thanks.
I am starting after a recessed button reset.
I do not have 'ether2' in my 'Interface' drop-down list.
I have 'ether2-master'.
I would assume that 'ether1' should be 'master'. ?
Is 'ether1' = 'port 1 PoE In', and reserved for POE?
You speak of an 'XM' node in 'ether1'. How do I get POE and a node plugged into 'ether1' ?
I assume that (my computer and) 'Data+Power' plugs into 'ether1'.
Is 'ether1' the physical RJ-45 port identified as '1 PoE In', the left-most RJ-45 socket?
I am baffled. It makes no sense to me to plug a node into 'port 1 PoE In'
Sorry,
Chuck
You can use any port you want. I just used those etherX numbers as examples. But let's do the layout below.
-master refers to how the internal switching is setup. The 'master' concept is a Mikrotik thing. You need one master port in each switch group. If you upgrade to the latest firmware (6.41.4) this setting is automatic and you needn't worry about it.
On the Mikrotik '1 PoE In' means you can power that Mikrotik via that port using an injector. Some models including your PowerBox also have a dedicated round power jack supporting a higher amperage and thus could be powered two different ways. Those models often have one or more power PoE outs as does yours. We should have just enough power margin to use port 1 to power two nodes (but no more). I know you wanted to run one wire up the tower. Power it up with two nodes on the ground first and make sure it's stable! If you plug in the first NSM5 into port 2 and double click on ether2 from the Interface screen, you will see something like this:
PoE Out Status powered on
PoE Out Current 95 mA
PoE Out Voltage 24.0 V
PoE Out Power 2.2 W
Looking back at your diagram I would recommend this:
-------------
Interfaces:
ether1
ether1-vlan1
ether1-vlan2
ether1-vlan10
ether1-vlan20
ether2 (no VLAN's added, leave as default)
ether3
ether3-vlan1
ether3-vlan2
ether4 (no VLAN's added, leave as default)
ether5
ether5-vlan1
ether5-vlan2
-------------
Bridges and their members:
bridge1:
ether1-vlan1
ether3-vlan1
ehter5-vlan1
bridge2:
ether1-vlan2
ether3-vlan2
ehter5-vlan2
bridge10:
ether1-vlan10
ether2
bridge20:
ether1-vlan20
ether4
------------
VLAN 10 will be the LAN for the first NSM5
VLAN 20 will be the LAN for the second NSM5
Everything will come down the wire on ether1. Your VLAN's will need to be configured on the switch at the base of the tower.
"Under the Interfaces tab, Click the + tab and add a VLAN. I have named this one ‘ether2-vlan1’ indicating it will be the tagged vlan1 traffic from the ether2 interface. Configure ‘VLAN ID: 1’ and select ‘ether2’ as the interface and click OK. Repeat for VLAN 2. Do this for each interface that will have a node on it."
I think I got as far as adding a VLAN and naming it 'ether2-vlan1'.
I do not know how to "Configure 'VLAN ID: 1'".
See image of how far I got.
"The image was resized to fit within the maximum allowed dimensions of 600x600 pixels."
Crap, no wonder your screen-prints were blurry. :-|
Chuck
TO AREDN WEBMASTER: In light of the fact that the average phone can easily have 12mp images (to say nothing of professional cameras) and the average desktop runs at least 2mp in size if not higher, and in consideration that storage is dirt cheap these days I think this size should be increased significantly. There really isnt any user experience negative to doing this especially if they are captured inside size restricted display where you click on them and they pop up to full 100% resolution it wouldn't mess up the page layout at all.
Also might be good to expand this to allow other file times (TIFF,GIF, maybe even HVIC since its catching on with Apple devices making it their standard default)
I changed my display to 800x600, saved a 'screenprint', cropped it to 600x600.
Attached.
NSM3 RB750P-PBr2 NSM5xw(a) NSM5xw(b) ... FUTURE NODE(S) ____ ___________ _____ _____ ____ | | | P | | | | | | | | M | | O | | 2 M | | 2 M | | | | A | | R | | N A | | N A | | | | I | | T | | D I | | D I | | | |__N_| |_12345_____| |___N_| |_ _N_| |____| | ||||| | | | | | | / ||| \________/ | | | / | / || \___________/ | | / | / | \____________________/ | / | / \_______________________/ / | | / | | / | | _______________________/ __|_____?_____________?__ | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9...16 | | | | (16 port switch | | in garage) | |____ ____________________| | | (One ethernet cable from garage to house) __|_______________ | 1 | | | | N N N N N N N | | O O O O O O O W | GS108E 3 Node 4 LAN 1 WAN | D D D D D D D A | (in house) | E E E E E E E N | | | | A A A B B C C | |__ _2_3_4_5_6_7_8_| | | | | | Home LAN switch (to internet) | RPi | IP PHONE --- Laptop The GS108E is configured thus: https://www.aredn.org/content/gs108e-3-node-4-lan-1-wanDavid
Hi, Ian: Thanks for your offer of assistance.
I have 2 instances where a remote passive POE switch will help.
1. At home, where I can run fewer cables up the tower.
I have, at least, 2 nodes each for 900, 2400, 3400, and 5900(XW) MHz and wish to test connectivity with other local nodes.
I am offering loaner nodes to local prospective meshers to try out the different bands to see which works best. So,
from time to time, I climb the tower and re-mount and re-point various nodes. Often the 50' ethernet cables get snagged
into my multiple side arms, mounts, and masts. I would like to have a central point near the top of the tower to obtain
data/power. Alas, the dern NSM5-XWs require 2 cables. :-| At home I have equipment (IP-fone, RPi server) and want
WAN to the internet available. I have this now utilizing a 'NetGear GS018E Plus' (managed) switch. I don't plan to power
all my devices with the 'Power Box', just either two NSM5-XWs or one NSM5-XW and (1or2) XM nodes. All services
will be configured on an existing XM node, so I assume that I do not need the power box to function as a managed switch.
If any of this is understandable, your assistance is most welcome.
2. At a remote site where we have one cable for each node, but want to add a node or nodes.
I want to add my NSM5-XW but there are not 2 spare ethernet cables. There are no (not yet)
services here, so no need for a managed switch, just a simple switch.
Chuck
Kaspersky Labs has found the following:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/sophisticated-malware-attacks-routers-033600657.html
I have two Mikrotik routers and four switches. They have not been on the Internet except for firmware updates so I doubt mine are affected. However, I will update to the latest firmware shortly.
Also, thank you for posting the how-to on how to configure them for use in a mesh network.
John
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