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N6WT
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MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT

Hi 

This is my first post on the forum and I hope this has not been covered before. 

I have a MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT antenna that was left attached to my home after I switched to a different ISP about 2 years ago. I had the antenna sitting in a box and thought I would try and install the AREDN firmware on it. I see the antenna is listed in the supported devices. 

I have tried the procedure at https://arednmesh.readthedocs.io/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/installing_firmware.html#mikrotik-first-install-process. The only difference is the IP of the antenna is 192.168.88.1. I go through the instructions and I get to the point that the PXE server says "TFTPd: DoReadFile: rb.elf". I click the offline button but the antenna never reboots and I cannot log into it via a web browser. 

I'm not sure what I am doing wrong?

Thanks
Kent
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w6bi
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Reset?

Kent, since the rb.elf file was successfully sent the QRT should load it temporarily into RAM and come up on the address of 192.168.1.1.  That's where you should look for it.

Orv W6BI

If you need more detailed instructions I hang out in CQ805 on Slack.

AJ6GZ
.88
Do not use 192.168.88.x.  Using this, while it might work if done correctly, will only cause confusion in troubleshooting.  The .88. is what the MikroTik software uses by default for RouterOS.  Mostly likely RouterOS is running and this is why we see 88 and why something detects a second DHCP server (also run by a defaulted RouterOS install).

Use 192.168.1.10 on your computer and .100 as the pool start and turn off the firewall.  If this doesn't work, there is something else being done incorrectly--make sure to hold the reset button until the rb.elf transfers. It may take longer than "20 seconds" if Windows does its lazy bring-up-the-network-nonsense. (A dumb switch in between doesn't hurt).

Key point:  If you see any mention of 88 at this point, the QRT booted RouterOS and not the rb file you're trying to send it.

 
nc8q
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The only difference is the IP of the

https://arednmesh.readthedocs.io/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/installing_firmware.html#mikrotik-first-install-process

Hi, Kent:

"The only difference is the IP of the antenna is 192.168.88.1."
There should not be any difference(s) if you follow the instructions.

"192.168.88."
is not mentioned in the install instructions for the Mikrotik devices.

Please tell us the step(s) immediately before "the PXE server says "TFTPd: DoReadFile: rb.elf"
I hope this helps,
Chuck

 

N6WT
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Chuck

Chuck

To log into the QRT antennas MikroTik OS I must use 192.168.88.1. So to get the antenna to read the rb.elf file from PXE is to set my computers IP to 192.168.88.XX. 

Orv suggested that after the rb.elf file is read the AREDN firmware uses 192.168.1.1. I have tried both 192,168.88.1 and 192.168.1.1 now and still no joy. 

AB7PA
One of the important

One of the important functions of a PXE server is to give the node an IP address via DHCP as well as providing the firmware image via tftp.  Therefore, you do not need to use the 192.168.88.x address because the device will receive an IP address on the subnet being served by your PXE server.  This is described in the link from the AREDN documentation that gives additional details about PXE servers (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preboot_Execution_Environment).  Look under the Details section in that link for more information about PXE.

The reason AREDN suggests using the 192.168.1.x network is to eliminate the need to change IP addresses on your computer during the install process.  The AREDN firmware will use the 192.168.1.x network once it is loaded, so using it all the way through the process will simplify things for you.

N6WT
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I have tried 192.168.1.1. The

I have tried 192.168.1.x. The only way I could get the "TFTPd: DoReadFile: rb.elf" was to use 192.168.88.50.

AB7PA
One suggestion would be to

One suggestion would be to take the radio to someone local in your area who can look at the device. I've flashed a bunch of QRT5 radios and we find them to be really good AREDN nodes -- they have full one watt output with a very nice high-gain panel.  I'm sure someone in your area can help with flashing it.

nc8q
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I go through the instructions and get to the point that the PXE

Hi, Kent:

'I go through the instructions and I get to the point that the PXE server says "TFTPd: DoReadFile: rb.elf". '
Good this far.

"I click the offline button but the antenna never reboots and I cannot log into it via a web browser."

How did you determine that the device(QRT) never reboots?

Omitted is the part where you put your computer's ethernet on a 192.168.1.X/24 address. Any address in the range 2 to 254 should work. Documentation suggests using 192.168.1.100.

"With the unit powered off, press and hold the reset button on the node while powering on the device.
Continue holding the reset button until you see TFTPd: DoReadFile: rb.elf in the Tiny PXE log window.
Release the node’s reset button and click the Offline button in Tiny PXE.
You are finished using Tiny PXE when the elf image has been read by the node.

The node will now automatically reboot with the temporary AREDN® Administration image.
Install the sysupgrade Firmware Image.
After booting the elf image(comma) the node will have a default IP address of 192.168.1.1.
Your computer should already have a static IP address on this subnet, but if not then give your computer an IP address on this subnet."


If "With the unit powered off, press and hold the reset button on the node while powering on the device.", then
the QRT will have no IP address until it gets one from your TFTP-server.
If you can set your TFTP-server to issue a 192.168.88.50 address, then it should be able to issue any IP address...
including 192.168.1.100.

KJ6VMH, K6ZAP, and KB6BF are nearest you and have upgraded their Mikrotik nodes this calendar year.
Perhaps you can arrange some in-person assistance.

I hope this helps,
Chuck
 

hb9tvp
MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT
Hello
Does anyone have an idea how I can get a MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT to work?
Actually, from my point of view, everything is fine, but the device does not reboot after switching the Tyni PXE offline.
 
14:09:02 DHCPd:OFFER sent, IP:192.168.88.11, XID:FFFFFFFF
14:09:07 DHCPc:another DHCPd detected on your LAN @ 192.168.88.10
14:09:07 DHCPc:it is recommended that you enable ProxyDHCP
14:09:23 DHCPd:REQUEST received, MAC:D4-CA-6D-FE-BB-70, XID:C652C28B
14:09:23 DHCPd:BOOTP REQUEST
14:09:23 DHCPd:ACK sent, IP:192.168.88.21, XID:C652C28B
14:09:23 TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0

Greetings HB9TVP
nc8q
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HB9TVP:
HB9TVP:

Reference:
  • 14:09:02 DHCPd:OFFER sent, IP:192.168.88.11, XID:FFFFFFFF
  • 14:09:07 DHCPc:another DHCPd detected on your LAN @ 192.168.88.10
 

Critical: There must be only 1 DHCP server on the network of your workstation and AREDN device.
Suggest: Please use 192.168.1.x instead of 192.168.88.x on your workstation/PXE-server.
 
"Set your computer’s Ethernet network adapter to a static IP address on the subnet you will be using for the new device. This can be any network number of your choice, but it is recommended that you use the 192.168.1.x subnet. Using the 192.168.1.x network on your PXE server will avoid changing IP addresses on your computer during the install process. "

73, Chuck
 
hb9tvp
mikrotik_routerboard-911g-5hpnd-qrt
Hello Chuck
Thank you very much for the info
I have made the adjustments.
Unfortunately, the router does not start after the update.
I am still a bit confused
 
Regards, Urs
nc8q
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Unfortunately, the router does not start after the update.
Hi, Urs:

How are you testing that the router does not start after loading the .elf file?

73, Chuck
 
hb9tvp
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Hello Chuck
The Mikrotik has 2 diodes on the left and right of the LAN connection.
Normally the left one lights up and the right one flashes depending on the data traffic.
After charging the diode lights up constantly and the left one is dark.
You also no longer have access to the Mikrotik
 
73,Urs
hb9tvp
mikrotik_routerboard-911g-5hpnd
Hello Chuck
I also tested the "aredn-20240611-5d8a240-ath79-mikrotik-mikrotik_routerboard-911g-5hpnd-qrt-initramfs-kernel.bin" nightly software.
The behavior is a little different there. After successful loading.
09:05:21 DHCPd:REQUEST received, MAC:D4-CA-6D-FE-BB-70, XID:9E3772F7
09:05:21 DHCPd:BOOTP REQUEST
09:05:21 DHCPd:ACK sent, IP:192.168.1.110, XID:9E3772F7
09:05:21 TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0
09:05:29 TFTPd stopped...
09:05:29 DHCPd stopped...
09:05:29 HTTPd stopped...
 
and switching the PXE offline blocks the Mikrotik in a state where both diodes to the right and left of the LAN connection are permanently lit.
Communication is also blocked???
 
Regards Urs
nc8q
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09:05:21 TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0
Hi, Urs:
I am not familiar with using the LEDs as a diagnostic tool.
Once "09:05:21 TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0" displays, you are done with the TFTP server
and you switched PXE offline. Good.
Now, I do not understand "Communication is also blocked???".
The Mikrotik device should now be on 192.168.1.1.
Is your computer still on 192.168.1.110?
Can you PING the Mikrotik at 192.168.1.1?
If yes, using your favorite browser, can you display http://192.168.1.1 ?

73, Chuck

 
hb9tvp
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Hello Chuck
 
No, unfortunately the Mikrotik is no longer accessible.
It doesn't seem to be blocked with any IP ????
 
Unfortunately I'm slowly running out of ideas.
 
I've read that other users have got this Mikrotik up and running.
 
I've also tested older firmware.
 
Regards, Urs
nc8q
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Now, I do not understand
I do not understand "Communication is also blocked???".

The Mikrotik device should now be on 192.168.1.1.
Is your computer still on 192.168.1.110?
Can you PING the Mikrotik at 192.168.1.1?
If yes, using your favorite browser, can you display http://192.168.1.1 ?

I do not understand "It doesn't seem to be blocked with any IP ????"
  1. After PXE reports '14:09:23 TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0',
  2. The Mikrotik device will reboot.
  3. The Mikrotik device should now be on 192.168.1.1.
  4. Is your computer still on 192.168.1.110?
  5. Can you PING the Mikrotik at 192.168.1.1?
  6. If yes, using your favorite browser, can you display http://192.168.1.1 ?
73, Chuck
 
hb9tvp
MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT
Hello Chuck
If the PXE reports TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf B:1452 T:0'
I let go of the reset button on the Mikrotik and press offline on the PXE.
From now on the Mikrotik is no longer accessible.
I used the IP scanner to check whether it is still accessible.
But I only see my own PC, the MikroTik can no longer be found
 
Regards Urs
nc8q
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From now on the Mikrotik is no longer accessible.
I let go of the reset button on the Mikrotik and press offline on the PXE. From now on the Mikrotik is no longer accessible. I used the IP scanner to check whether it is still accessible. But I only see my own PC, the MikroTik can no longer be found Hi, Urs: How soon after "TFTPd:DoReadFile:rb.elf " are you trying to access the device? 5 minutes? 'Do How are you trying to access the device? Web browser? @ http://192.168.1.1 ? Your computer is still 192.168.1.[2..254] ? 73, Chuck
hb9tvp
MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT
Hello Chuck, I have recorded all the steps and answers again in the PDF

I tried this with different IP addresses including 192.168.88.xxx

Gruss Urs
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MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT installing AREDN
Hi, Gruss Urs:

I think I should bow out and let a Windows guru follow up.
I do have 2 queries:

1. It seems that your workstation (+PXE server) is using 192.168.1.10.
It seems that its PXE server is offering 10 DHCP addresses: .11 through .20.
I am baffled where/why 192.168.1.21 is mentioned in your .PDF

2. Your .PDF contains 'mikrotik enshalten mit reset' :: Mikrotik shut off with reset!
The Mikrotik RB911 should reboot after the rb.elf upload, but it should not be shut off
until after the factory.bin has been loaded and configured!

The device should be powered up in TFTP mode and not be powered down until after
the new factory.bin firmware is configured.

73, Chuck



 
hb9tvp
MikroTik RB911G-5HPnD-QRT
Hello Chuck
Thank you very much for your patience with me.
I will try another PXE tool.
Otherwise I will put the 2 Mikrotik antennas back in the basement and get 2 Ubiquiti antennas, these can be updated to AREDN without any problems.
 
PS: I was very pleased to communicate with you.
By the way, I have a son who lives in Ann Arbor Michigan
At home
73, HB9TVP , Urs from Switzerland

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