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Anyone using the 44.x.x.x network with AREDN?

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Wed, 10/13/2021 - 20:06

#1

K6AH

Anyone using the 44.x.x.x network with AREDN?

I'd be curious if anyone is using the 44.x.x.x network with AREDN. If so, I'd like to hear what you're using it for.

Thanks,

Andre, K6AH

Thu, 10/14/2021 - 06:54

#2

N3WTT

interested a well

I am curious a well. I have a block for AMPRNet and was thinking about how it could be used with AREDN on a few occasions.

Thu, 10/14/2021 - 07:19

#3

nc8q

Anyone using the 44.x.x.x network with AREDN?

I am curious as well.
The only benefit I see is that

everyone with a 44NET address has been vetted by AMPR.org
they support a 'stratum 2' NTP service.

Otherwise, using 44NET adds some overhead to every link.

Thanks,
Chuck nc8q

Thu, 10/14/2021 - 08:36

#4

KF6RTA

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Yes! We have a node on the 44/ampr.org network

Hi Andre et al,

Try this node at the JPL: http://mesh.w6jpl.ampr.org

This makes the node accessible from outside the mesh, but you cannot use the node list to jump to other ones (since you cannot "jump into" the 10.* network) from outside. We set it up a while ago (thanks to Joe and Don) for convenience. We had the IP range from ampr.org for other reasons (https://jplarc.ampr.org so it was not hard to get a node set up for the mesh).

-Jonathan KF6RTA

Thu, 10/14/2021 - 17:09

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K5DLQ

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would you get the same

would you get the same capability if you just port forwarded from an external router to your node? (without having to modify the node)
Curious, if there are other benefits that you are gaining?

Fri, 10/15/2021 - 18:18

(Reply to #5) #6

K6AH

That's what I was after

Thanks Jonathan. That's what I was after. Darryl, K5DLQ poses a good question.

Andre

Tue, 10/19/2021 - 08:36

#7

KB9OIV

You could use them as freebie

You could use them as freebie static IP's if you can get them BGP advertised by your isp.

Tue, 10/19/2021 - 22:34

#8

N2MH

Mesh <-> AMPR Gateway

Here in New Jersey I have a /24 allocation on AMPRnet as well as another /24 allocation for my location in North Carolina, both on the ipip tunnel network. I do not announce my allocations via BGP to the Internet. Thus, my connectivity is limited to the ipip network.

I have been able to set up a gateway between Mesh and AMPRnet for services, but not network routing. Some of the services are telephony, email, web and DMR.

For telephony, I have connectivity into several PBX's in Europe via HAMNET. Users on either MeshPhone or HAMNET can directly dial users on the other network.

Email can be relayed between networks. I have an active destination on AMPRnet that receives email notifications of alerts broadcast over the local NOAA WX Transmitter, KWO35 in New York City.

N2MH-Web is reachable from either network and carries the same content. I have a proxy running on my N2MH-Hub that allows mesh users to surf the AMPRnet. It also works the other way allowing AMPRnet users to view various Mesh networks.

Finally, I have a DMR master running on hblink that is reachable from either network. It uses Talk Group 6374 which does not appear on any Internet server.

For the full rundown, go to N2MH-Web.local.mesh or N2MH-Web.n2mh.ampr.org.

73, Mark, N2MH
MeshPhone: 973-2111
HamNet: 62206142

Fri, 01/14/2022 - 12:14

#9

G0SRG

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44 net

Hi folks, just seen this post. I am looking to use the 44.x.x.x network as our backbone PTP and PTMP in the UK using BGP. We are limited with power levels on 5ghz with our license 30dbm eirp for an unattended node. The 44.x.x.x network would allow us to use the commercial OFCOM ISM license with 36dbm eirp on a bigger range of equipment. 6db is that extra bit. We are going to use AREDN for local mesh deployment but interlinks would be on 44.x.x.x and I have used the AREDN VPN gateway as a way to transfer through the system between different locations. Probably not the most efficient but we have to use what we have.
Steve G4EKM www.ukhamwan.net and www.nednet.org.uk

Wed, 11/23/2022 - 23:17

(Reply to #9) #10

KQ6UP

Also have a 44-net C block

I am trying to get connectivity back to 44-net through JNOS. I was wondering why ARDEN did not use a block of 44-net addresses, but I guess using addresses in 10.*.*.* makes more sense as there is a lot to play with in that address space. Is there also a winlink 44-net server. That way I don't have to have JNOS exposed to the wild. I am going to run it as a CMS/RMS server.

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