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N3WTT
What would be the cheapest way to get started?
Really interested in this project but not quite ready for a full set up. So to get started what would some of the more experienced users recommend for a dirt cheep build?

I am not worried about distance/range at this point just experimenting (actually shorter range may even be better to learn?)T are no nodes listed in my area on the map so this is strictly for learning at this point. 

The cheaper the better. Again this is just for testing/learning for now.

Thinking about 3 nodes to experiment. I feel this would be the minimal to test and learn about mesh? Is this a bad idea?

initially I was looking at the ar150 bit my concern is of it's still in the researching stage it may be a bit much for someone such as my self just learning. I don't want to make the learning more difficult on myself then need be.

is there anything I am missing? There is allot going on here and I feel like I have allot to catch up on and learn.

 
K5DLQ
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If you want a fully supported

If you want a fully supported device, you can't beat the Mikrotik hAP AC Lite for price and features.  It is an indoor only device, but has a network switch built in and is dual band (2ghz mesh, and 5ghz access point)

N3WTT
Thanks! Indoor is fine for
Thanks! Indoor is fine for now.
K6CCC
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He beat me to it.  I also
He beat me to it.  I also would suggest the MikroTik hAP Lite.  To set up a link, grab a pair of MikroTik LGH radios.  About the cheapest nodes around.  
 
N3WTT
So does this mean the happy
So does this mean the hap lite would work as a switch connecting a lite head grid to the hap router? I only ask because you stated to set up a link all I would need then is the lite head grid? Just seeing if I would still require a switch or if I can expand off the hap lite?
nc8q
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if I can expand off the hap lite?
The Mikrotik hAP ac lite with AREDN firmware presents
one (1) DtD port so that another node device may be attached,
one WAN port so that internet access may be provided, and
three (3) LAN ports providing IP addresses via DHCP.
If you wish to add more than one (1) DtD node, a managed switch is needed.
I hope this helps.
Chuck

 
K5DLQ
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or, connect a dumb switch to
or, connect a dumb switch to the DTD port to provide many DTD ports.
N3WTT
Wow ok it's starting to sink
Wow ok it's starting to sink in. Sorry for all the questions I am currently in sensory overload. Between just getting my technician class finished, studding for general, work, really interested in this project as well as a few others my head is spinning. I didn't realize how great a deal the hap is! Lastly thank you to everyone that took the time to help this rookie out... It is appreciated. I think I am ready to pull the trigger though Last questions: * Can you mix and match with the Mikrotik hAP? Meaning if I want to add a Link could I just add a TP-Link CPE or would I be restricted to Mikrotik devices? * MIMO? If I add a node/point via Ethernet that has MIMO would that work or would MIMO be incompatible because the the hap does not support it?
K5DLQ
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you can mix and match between
you can mix and match between any supported device.
MIMO devices can connect to non-MIMO.   For outdoor nodes, you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, REALLY, R-E-A-L-L-Y want MIMO.  
N3WTT
Seriously thank you for
Seriously thank you for thanking the time to explain things to me. I am definitely going with the hap. I notice some of the supported devices have USA or international versions/frequencies. Does it matter which is purchased?
K9CQB
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The hAP-ac-lite is MIMO.
I just wanted to make sure you were aware that t​he hAP-ac-lite is a 2x2 MIMO device on the AREDN 2.4GHz side. On the 5GHz ac wifi side, it is only SISO.
Also - it makes no difference if you purchase the US or Internatonal version of these devices.
-Damon K9CQB
 
N3WTT
Ok I Believe I have enough to
Ok I Believe I have enough to get going thank you Damon and everyone else!
K9CQB
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I never thought of this.
Darryl,
I never thought of using just a dumb switch on the DtD port. I need to connect 3 DtD devices to a hAP-ac-lite, but I only have 2 ports left open and I need them all to be DtD. I could just connect this $7 dumb switch to port 5 of the hAP and add those 3 nodes?:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-100Mbps-5-Ports-Fast-Ethernet-LAN-Desktop-RJ45-Switch-Switcher-Splitter-Hub/143060224024

Now, y'all... before you judge me for buying such cheap crap (a cheap $7 Ethernet switch, whaaaaat???!?!). I bought 4 of these things 3 years ago. I ran them all for months. One of the four stopped working after 2 weeks so I threw it away. The other 3 I've been running like a champ since. It's what I call "Quality Assurance through operation" (I made up that term).
The genius of these tiny cheap switches is that you can travel with a couple of them and they are powered by the USB port of the hAP-ac-lite. 

-Damon K9CQB
 
K6AH
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That's a Hub, not a switch
Well, you'd be better off with an "unmanaged Etherswitch" which will do layer 2 switching.  What you're describing is a "hub" that simply blasts everything it hears out all other ports.  You can find ​unmanaged Etherswitches in the same price-range.

Andre
 
K9CQB
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I learn something every day.
Andre, I wasn't even aware of 'unmanaged Etherswitch' devices. I just bought 2 different versions (TP Link & a cheap Chinese one) that both run off of a 5V USB port and are less than $15 each. I'll report back as to which works best.
Thank you,
-Damon K9CQB
w6bi
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On-line AREDN documentation
Marc, see the on-line docs:  https://arednmesh.readthedocs.io/en/latest/arednGettingStarted/aredn_ove... Lots of good stuff about hardware in there.

Orv W6BI

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