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WK7G
Linking 2.4 and 5.8 via DtD ??
I'm trying to configure my mesh to use both 2.4 and 5.8 nodes to communicate.
I have 
1 - hAP ac2
2 - hAP Lites
2.4ghz
1 - TP-Link CPE210
2 - Ubiquity M2-400
5.8ghz
2 - Ubiquity LAP-120
1 - TP-Link CPE-710
Switches
TP-Link SG-605
TP-Link SG108
I want to put the LAP-120's and the CPE210 on my tower at my QTH. The other PtP nodes would be at other locations. How would I configure the LAP-120's and the CPE210 through DtD so that they all communicate? All the nodes are working and configured with 3.25.2.0. Any help would be appreciated!
Scott(WK7G)

 
K6CCC
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DtD does not care at all what
DtD does not care at all what RF a node has (or even if there is none).  I am unfamiliar with either of those nodes, but I assume they are single Ethernet port devices.  If so, just connect the two Ethernet port together and they will connect via DtD.  Nothing special required.  If those devices have multiple Ethernet ports, determine which port is the DtD port and connect those ports together.  If you want more than two nodes DtD connected, use either a dumb switch for the DtD or if you need to also extract LAN or WAN, use a smart switch.  That will require a little config in the swtch - nothing in the AREDN nodes.

 
nc8q
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How would I connect 2 or more nodes to communicate via DtD?
Hi, Scott:

" How would I configure the LAP-120's and the CPE210 through DtD so that they all communicate?"
+1 with K6CCC.
Connect them to an ethernet switch and hope that the switch passes VLAN2.
Most do.
Since you also mention that the nodes will be at your QTH.
Thus I assume you mean your home and also assume you will manage them
with a home computer.
Then also plug the DtD port of of the hAP* into the same switch.
Plug your home computer(s) and service(s) into the LAN ports of the hAP*.

73, Chuck
 
K7EOK
Wow, that's a lot of gear for
Wow, that's a lot of gear for a home location! 

Too bad you don't have a POE switch.  You don't even need a fancy managed switch, just one you can control POE and get 24V out of, the entire switch would be VLAN2.  I would suggest just using the hAP ac2 and configure some LAN ports for your computers, and it will give you a nice LAN wifi as well.  Then my suggestion is get an 8 port POE switch (not an AREDN device) and have it all on VLAN2 and have all the devices on the tower powered from there.  Config 7 ports POE and one not POE, then run one cable from that unpowered port to port 5 (with POE off) of the hAP and you're there.   Makes it much tidier than all the power injectors, or using the hAP lites to get POE.   Ed
WK7G
As soon as I get back home I
As soon as I get back home I will start hooking things up. Before Ieft Saturday I got q of the LAP-120's up o my tower at 35 ft and powered UP. IM enjoying solving this puzzle. Do you have a recommendation for a poe switch?
nc8q
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Do you have a recommendation for a poe switch?
Outdoor:
https://dl.ubnt.com/datasheets/NanoSwitch/NanoSwitch_DS.pdf ~$40
At some elevation on the tower, You need 1 ethernet cable for up to a
3 node switch, 2 cables and 2 POEs for up to a 6 node switch.

Indoor:
Each cable to a N-SW powered with a Ubiquiti Networks POE-24-30W ~$16

73, Chuck
K7EOK
The big decision is if you
The big decision is if you run one cable up the tower then split to three with the outdoor switch, or if you run a cable for each device.  A cable for each device is more cost and more work, but you can control each device power and on/off separately with more cables.  Also, the outdoor switch does not generate POE which Chuck suggests in his post. 

A low end POE switch that could work with a cable to each antenna is similar to this

 https://www.netgear.com/business/wired/switches/unmanaged/gs308pp/

I haven't yet looked at the details so it might not be appropriate.  You want a switch where the control panel allows you to select POE at 24VDC rather than auto negotiate with a fancy new standard.  If you have a future need for a POE camera on the tower many switches give you choice of voltage. 

As I said earlier, the pivotal decision is how much cable you are willing to run up the tower.   Ed
WK7G
I need to contemplate how to
I need to contemplate how to do this with future expansion. I would eventually like 360 degree coverage for 5.8ghz. The 2.4ghz equipment Ive had for a couple years, so not as important. I live in the South end of a mountain valley, so most of the future nodes will be nw to ne from me. The farthest node will be 18.2 miles from my tower at 010 mag Heanding I have 2 other operators interested so far. I'm almost biting off too much trying to start a club and get the mesh started as well. I think I will start with an outdoor switch for the 3 nodes and have enough room for a camera as well on a 5 port. Gotta have a hobby or two or three! LOL
Thanks for the help guys!

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